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Docter Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:25:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:A step in the right direction. Now if only they'd punish more people "playing" like this. While i applaud that something is done to people macroing all over the market, it is not really defendible why this guy has to go when The Wis (and others like him) and his macro army can stay.
Because it says using macros are wrong right? I never get why people like you get all upset because some one knows how to use macros... Its not like hes changing the code to the game or some thing or hacking some thing  |
Docter Daniel Jackson
Fleetworks Training
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:31:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:Beckie DeLey wrote:A step in the right direction. Now if only they'd punish more people "playing" like this. While i applaud that something is done to people macroing all over the market, it is not really defendible why this guy has to go when The Wis (and others like him) and his macro army can stay. Because it says using macros are wrong right? I never get why people like you get all upset because some one knows how to use macros... Its not like hes changing the code to the game or some thing or hacking some thing That's just semantics, really. You are using 3rd party programs to do what would be impossible otherwise. If this guy was using some script to update 30 market orders per minute, he deserved what he got. I don't care about some boneheaded distinction between script, macros, bots or whatever, it's the deed that counts. The rest is just rules lawyering.
But dose it say in the rules of the game you can't do it though? |
Docter Daniel Jackson
Fleetworks Training
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:But dose it say in the rules of the game you can't do it though? Yes it does, actually.
I'll have to look then, unless some one can point me to a link. |
Docter Daniel Jackson
Fleetworks Training
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:37:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Quote:the closest he ever got was probably to create custom in-game-browser pages to streamline his workflow, meaning he would log into an alt, and update around 30 orders a minute for 10-20 minutes at a time.
That is the problem right there. He was using tools which allowed him to rapidly perform actions faster than he otherwise would have been able to on his own. This is covered in the EULA. Quote:3.You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Ok ty, I stand corrected then. |
Docter Daniel Jackson
Fleetworks Training
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:40:00 -
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Dante Uisen wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Dante Uisen wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:I'm very sure that you can't modify 30 orders within a minute - whether with macros or by hand. You can use the in-game browser to display market data, which makes it a trivial task to write software that detects when you need to update you orders. All you need to do is use javascript to cycle trough the item you want to sell, this updates the local cache which you can parse to get the items sell prices. From there on all you need to do is verify the weather or not you have the lowest price. You can list the correct price need to undercut by .1 isk, or maybe even manipulate the copy/paste buffer directly to contain the correct value. In the end all you need to do is find the correct order, edit and paste the value. It probably takes more then 2 sec for reach order, but you can do a lot of orders each minute. This is a public know and legal way of managing market orders. I would not recommend anyone do this and I'd ask that you not tell our players what you consider to be legal. The EULA does a decent enough job of that and is contrary to your statement. This has been discussed before on the official forums, where dev/gm posts said this method was not against the rules as the player edits the market order.
then by all means give up a link to it. |
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